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[fe_male]

Ahh, okay, got it, you're right it totally can't. At all. Can I have my arm back?

[motherofnemesis]

[ Letting go and patting his shoulder. ] You have to twist it further than that to cause them pain by the twist alone, though. Otherwise, just go for the fist to the elbow. Even if you don't quite break it it hurts like hell. [ Dusting her hands off now. ] Want to give it a go?

[fe_male]

Uhh, I don't want to break your elbow, no. Or accidentally twist your arm around.

[motherofnemesis]

Oh, come on, I just did it to you without hurting you. And do you really think I'd let you get far enough to hurt me?

[fe_male]

[ Both of those things I told you already. He is thinking those, quietly, to himself. ] Encouraging. Okay, we can do it in slow motion. Gimme your wrist.

[motherofnemesis]

[ rude she is totally encouraging, okay. She contemplates for a moment insisting on running it from the beginning, but then she considers putting her hands around his neck and thinks just going with the one part of it is totally fine, reaching one hand out towards him. ]

[fe_male]

[ lol yeah let's not do hands around his neck rn he might not be okay with that

But he does take her wrist, turning it like he remembers her turning his, and then actually going one step further using his other hand to run along her arm, feeling out why this works and what she was talking about in regards to the elbow and such. He doesn't add any more pressure or anything, but learning the physicality of what's at work here, that'll help him just as much as learning the movements in the first place. ]

[motherofnemesis]

[ She stays still, watching him with nothing but interest and calm faith on her face. Which is actually a pretty significant factor of trust on her part. There's no one else she'd let put her in any sort of compromising position even if she was fairly confident she could get out of it. ] It makes sense?

[fe_male]

[ He doesn't quite realize the amount of faith required here, he's a little busy wearing his engineer's hat at the moment. It's not too long before he's satisfied though, and lets go just after she asks him the question. ] Yeah, think I got it.

[motherofnemesis]

[ It's just one of those things where saying anything out loud or having him realize it would make her feel kind of silly, so she's more than all right with him not realizing. She runs her hand instinctively over her forearm after he releases it, though, as if checking for damage. ] Awesome. Okay, now, what do you do if someone grabs you from behind?

[fe_male]

Of course I do: scream like a little girl. [ Because after any moment of actual potential learning there must be one of ridiculousness. ]

[motherofnemesis]

[ Scrunching up her face at him. ] Wow, that is so totally helpful. You're amazing, I bet you could get out of any kidnapping. [ Rolling her neck. ] You know how to put a full nelson on someone?

[fe_male]

Gotten out of them all so far. Pretty much, yeah. Haven't had to do it since MIT, I think. Rhodey got too fast for it a little while after basic.

this fucking dropdown menu i've banned and unbanned you like three times these past couple weeks

[motherofnemesis]

Yeah, eventually. But I'm talking short term escape. [ And turning her back to him. ] Okay, good, go for it.

lmao i've done it... once. I actually can't seem to get it to pop up when I do want the thing

[fe_male]

[ That's another pause for a second because uhhh but okay she actually literally told him to, so, okay, here he goes. ]

that's because it only comes down when you don't want it to :|

[motherofnemesis]

[ Rolling her neck a moment before he does, and then she braces herself and starts talking, apparently casually totally at ease with this. ] This works on a weight leverage principle that should be pretty obvious to you. Just stay still for this one, okay?

what a rude little section of coding it is

[fe_male]

[ He's totally still, because, yeah, okay. ] You got it.

/seriously/

[motherofnemesis]

So the point of the full nelson is immobilizing someone's upper body, which makes an elbow strike a little hard. But the most basic move is actually really similar to what you do for a chokehold. Lift the finger out and snap it, then hold the other hand on your neck as you turn so they can't remove it. [ Demonstrating. ] At that point you can either bend the elbow in and snap it or bend the arm itself in - a little further like this and it'll hurt quite a lot.

[fe_male]

[ It's kind of fun, watching Tony literally (and by that I mean figuratively) absorb information. Mostly in that you actually can sort of watch him do it. ] Uh, yeah, it's barely going that far as it is, so I would imagine that would suck. When you say snap the elbow, do you mean like, dislocate the joint, or more like breaking one or two of the three bones that connect to form it right above their respective epiphyses?

[motherofnemesis]

Relax, I'm really good at knowing where the edge is between mildly uncomfortable and actually painful. [ And letting go of his arm with a shrug. ] Personally, I find breaking the bones is most effective, but that can be hard and dislocating a joint will generally work reasonably well.

[fe_male]

Well, I meant more like, if you keep turning it and 'snap' the elbow, which one of those results would be more likely to happen? How do you even put a dislocated elbow back in line? There's not really anything to push on.

i just spent way too long poking and prodding at my elbow and i'm still making it up shhhh

[motherofnemesis]

I generally hit just above the elbow - if you have the position right - [ and holding her own arm and twisting it so she can indicate the spot ] and enough force behind it, that tends to crack the bone. If you go for the elbow itself, you're more likely to snap the joint.

I wouldn't know if you can put it back together, I'm generally not on that side of it.

it's okay i make up a lot of things too

[fe_male]

It's generally easier to break things than fix them. Takes a special kind of sophisticated mind to fix things. [ is he talking about himself? what? i couldn't imagi-- yeah no he's totally talking about himself. ] So we're covering all the basic manhandling, right? What else do people grab?

making up things is just so much easier

[motherofnemesis]

Yeah, it does. [ He may be talking about himself but she's just going to apply that statement to herself too because she can. ] What don't they grab? What do you want to learn.

it really is

[fe_male]

[ Well he was talking in general but the sophisticated part can be about them both. He wouldn't object to that. ] I wanna knowww... Hm. Can you show me - [ as his brain helpfully supplies 'something familiar about the dangers like me', which doesn't work, but whatever. ] What if they've got your hands tied up?