i think our sleep schedules are synced and also i hear lots of sleep is good for you
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motherofnemesis
2013-06-13 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
[ It's complicated.
Or possibly just hypocritical. Maybe that. It's a feeling she finds uncomfortable, because doing things because of a feeling that they're owed isn't a way to do things that she likes. Most of the time she can avoid it, can narrow down her motivations to the fact that she likes him and wants to do things for him because of that, because she feels wholeheartedly that he is worth anything.
I'm rather looking forward to it too. She hums against his throat, makes sure her angle means that he can't follow her well as she smiles. ] Do you really want to argue that point?
Or possibly just hypocritical. Maybe that. It's a feeling she finds uncomfortable, because doing things because of a feeling that they're owed isn't a way to do things that she likes. Most of the time she can avoid it, can narrow down her motivations to the fact that she likes him and wants to do things for him because of that, because she feels wholeheartedly that he is worth anything.
I'm rather looking forward to it too. She hums against his throat, makes sure her angle means that he can't follow her well as she smiles. ] Do you really want to argue that point?
[ Oh, but of course. "Complicated". Of course it is.
Hypocritical is far more likely, as far as I can tell. And see, he finds doing things out of obligation, when it's obligation that he has assigned and walked into himself, those types of things are comfortable. They make him feel good when he does them, because they feel like a tit-for-tat repayment in turn and kind and things can be balanced. He has his own skewed vision of interpersonal relationships - it differs from her own by quite a lot - and that happens to be one of the dividing tenets.
Wow, rude. He'd really like to follow her, as indicated by the way he absently keeps trying. ] Probably not. I feel like I do but mysteriously I think I probably shouldn't.
Hypocritical is far more likely, as far as I can tell. And see, he finds doing things out of obligation, when it's obligation that he has assigned and walked into himself, those types of things are comfortable. They make him feel good when he does them, because they feel like a tit-for-tat repayment in turn and kind and things can be balanced. He has his own skewed vision of interpersonal relationships - it differs from her own by quite a lot - and that happens to be one of the dividing tenets.
Wow, rude. He'd really like to follow her, as indicated by the way he absently keeps trying. ] Probably not. I feel like I do but mysteriously I think I probably shouldn't.
[ Only that involves still having the ability to have sex, because she really likes that one. He's very very good at it. ]
I've been asleep a lot over time, I generally don't find it necessary to stay asleep. [ She runs her hand down to his shoulder, kneads the muscles there for a moment before sliding it back up to his hair. ] It's okay. You're not causing me trouble, don't worry about it.
I've been asleep a lot over time, I generally don't find it necessary to stay asleep. [ She runs her hand down to his shoulder, kneads the muscles there for a moment before sliding it back up to his hair. ] It's okay. You're not causing me trouble, don't worry about it.
[ Yeah, in a lot of ways it's just very hypocritical. Something she kind of despises, but also puts a fair amount of effort into trying to avoid being a thing. It's just hard, for her, to separate the concept of something that someone feels is owed into something they can also want to do, even when it's something she's felt herself, because for years obligation was her life, both in what she did and how the people around her treated her and why she was helped. Because she'd saved them in the past, because she'd taken a fall where no one else would and they owed her a rescue, because they owed her time or the comfort an empath can provide or any number of things.
She doesn't like obligation, most of the time.
She nips at his skin, tightens her grip around his wrists. Just let her work at your neck here for a little bit, she wants to leave it marked before she moves away fully, wants to have that on his skin before they have this particular talk. ] Smart move. [ Her mouth lingers on his skin a little longer, almost nervous, and then she runs her tongue along his skin where she's marked it and steps away, dropping his hands as she turns her back to him. She has things to retrieve, here. ] I'm pretty sure you know how to take off clothes.
She doesn't like obligation, most of the time.
She nips at his skin, tightens her grip around his wrists. Just let her work at your neck here for a little bit, she wants to leave it marked before she moves away fully, wants to have that on his skin before they have this particular talk. ] Smart move. [ Her mouth lingers on his skin a little longer, almost nervous, and then she runs her tongue along his skin where she's marked it and steps away, dropping his hands as she turns her back to him. She has things to retrieve, here. ] I'm pretty sure you know how to take off clothes.
[ True, okay. All of that.
He is uncertain, and he lets it show a little bit, except when she's rubbing his shoulder because holy shit that was a thing he never knew he needed, and it's not until she starts carding her fingers through his hair again that he can talk. ] It is trouble though. You were asleep, and then you got up to help. Me, and then that was hard on us both I didn't miss that, and then now you're staying up - I don't even know what I'm going to do yet. I just... I don't want to sleep.
He is uncertain, and he lets it show a little bit, except when she's rubbing his shoulder because holy shit that was a thing he never knew he needed, and it's not until she starts carding her fingers through his hair again that he can talk. ] It is trouble though. You were asleep, and then you got up to help. Me, and then that was hard on us both I didn't miss that, and then now you're staying up - I don't even know what I'm going to do yet. I just... I don't want to sleep.
[ They're both highly hypocritical, it's kind of hilarious. But right now has little to do with anything from his side of things. He's not aware of the whole plan here, so he's not thinking about any of that.
He's all but pliant underneath her the more she goes to work at him. His own hands are distracted from what they might have wanted to be doing, there's an occasional push of his hips in no real direction, just an instinctive need for them to move, somehow, and he stays there for a couple of seconds after she stops, totally not stunning and lagging, before he sits up on his elbows to watch her. Well, for a moment; he moves to take his shirt off and that's done within a matter of three seconds. ] How many?
He's all but pliant underneath her the more she goes to work at him. His own hands are distracted from what they might have wanted to be doing, there's an occasional push of his hips in no real direction, just an instinctive need for them to move, somehow, and he stays there for a couple of seconds after she stops, totally not stunning and lagging, before he sits up on his elbows to watch her. Well, for a moment; he moves to take his shirt off and that's done within a matter of three seconds. ] How many?
[ She waits until he's done talking, but that reaction to her hand on his shoulder wasn't missed and she shifts enough that it's easy to rest both of her hands on his shoulders, try to leverage a little more stress out of his muscles, see if she can't ease them. ] Whatever you do, if you want me there too I'll be there. [ Said quite matter of factly. ] It was hard on us both, but I don't really - it's easier, with you. Things are. I'd rather be up with you than trying to sleep again.
i was going to say sleep being important but i think i've decided that is going to be true eventuall
motherofnemesis
2013-06-15 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
[ That's what being self-sacrificing and ridiculous leads you to.
But yeah, he's got a little bit to realize that's where this is headed, her staying just out of reach of the push of his hips because nope, no distracting her allowed. She shrugs without looking back, lifts out a pair of cuffs and lets them dangle from her hand as she inspects the cupboard. ] How many do you think?
But yeah, he's got a little bit to realize that's where this is headed, her staying just out of reach of the push of his hips because nope, no distracting her allowed. She shrugs without looking back, lifts out a pair of cuffs and lets them dangle from her hand as she inspects the cupboard. ] How many do you think?
[ Max
Max no he doesn't know what to do with people who are just... available.
Well, actually, he does, he knows exactly what to do with people who are just available to him and it typically winds up in him taking advantage of the situation. And yes, by 'people' I mean 'Rhodey and Pepper'. Who else does Tony ever have a good comparison to?
But he keeps that thought to himself, and not just because he's busy with the way that her hands feel right now. He keeps it to himself because it seems like another reason this whole thing is his mess and she doesn't need to know all of it immediately, not like that. ] I'm not gonna do anything specific. I mean, I might get into it, but that's not the intention right now. [ Beat. ] Things are easier with you too.
Max no he doesn't know what to do with people who are just... available.
Well, actually, he does, he knows exactly what to do with people who are just available to him and it typically winds up in him taking advantage of the situation. And yes, by 'people' I mean 'Rhodey and Pepper'. Who else does Tony ever have a good comparison to?
But he keeps that thought to himself, and not just because he's busy with the way that her hands feel right now. He keeps it to himself because it seems like another reason this whole thing is his mess and she doesn't need to know all of it immediately, not like that. ] I'm not gonna do anything specific. I mean, I might get into it, but that's not the intention right now. [ Beat. ] Things are easier with you too.
[ Being self-sacrificing and ridiculous leads you to not being told things? That's rude, he's just trying to put you before himself, Max. Somewhere along the line he's pretty sure he's been directly told that that's what you're supposed to do.
It's actually really distracting, whatever she's doing over there, even if he can't see it. He's not particularly sure what she's doing, just that it's more or less arrested his progress with the clothes while he stares at her back to try and figure it out. So far he's managed to get his over-shirt, socks, and shoes off, because clearly these are the most important things. The undershirt, pants, and underwear are a mere formality, probably up until she turns back around and says something about it. ]
It's actually really distracting, whatever she's doing over there, even if he can't see it. He's not particularly sure what she's doing, just that it's more or less arrested his progress with the clothes while he stares at her back to try and figure it out. So far he's managed to get his over-shirt, socks, and shoes off, because clearly these are the most important things. The undershirt, pants, and underwear are a mere formality, probably up until she turns back around and says something about it. ]
[ She's not terribly inclined to let him do anything that she feels would be taking advantage of her, and if he feels he's taking advantage of her then maybe he should ask her if she feels the same way because the odds are very very high she doesn't at all.
She hums a little, shrugs and keeps on with her impromptu massage because working with her hands is always in some respect soothing and she thinks it's helping him a little here too. ] It's okay. I don't feel like sleeping, so I'll just stay up with you. If you want me. [ Because there is always the option that it would be better for him to be alone, but she thinks right now that's not so much a thing. A pause of her own in response, and then she nods. ] I'm glad.
She hums a little, shrugs and keeps on with her impromptu massage because working with her hands is always in some respect soothing and she thinks it's helping him a little here too. ] It's okay. I don't feel like sleeping, so I'll just stay up with you. If you want me. [ Because there is always the option that it would be better for him to be alone, but she thinks right now that's not so much a thing. A pause of her own in response, and then she nods. ] I'm glad.
Re: +y. also so i got distracted reading an old fanfic this thread suddenly reminded me of
motherofnemesis
2013-06-15 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
[ It leads to them both being hypocritically absurd people. She doesn't want to be put ahead of him. He's far more important than she is, that seems pretty clear to her.
She does in fact glance back over her shoulder, raises an eyebrow at him still watching her and drapes the gag she just pulled out casually over her shoulder, still watching him. ] That's how many you think? [ The implication clear in her voice that that is definitely not enough clothes off. ]
She does in fact glance back over her shoulder, raises an eyebrow at him still watching her and drapes the gag she just pulled out casually over her shoulder, still watching him. ] That's how many you think? [ The implication clear in her voice that that is definitely not enough clothes off. ]
[ Why on earth would he ask her and give her the opportunity to concretely make him aware that he's taking advantage of her? It's much better to simply feel like it might be happening, accept the guilt if it is and the benefits of it not being so.
His response to that though, is without hesitation at all. ] I always want you. [ Which just means there's more pause before the following. It's time for some lightheartedness again. ] Sexually. Purely.
His response to that though, is without hesitation at all. ] I always want you. [ Which just means there's more pause before the following. It's time for some lightheartedness again. ] Sexually. Purely.
[ But that's wrong, so, she's going to have to suck it up and deal.
He manages a faintly innocent look that actually doesn't even fool him all the way up until she just so casually shows him the gag, cool and nonchalant, and something in his face shifts almost immediately. It's a good shift, just difficult to explain. But his hands move back to his clothes, even if it's somewhat distracted for the way he won't stop looking at what he can see her doing over there. ] Wasn't done yet.
He manages a faintly innocent look that actually doesn't even fool him all the way up until she just so casually shows him the gag, cool and nonchalant, and something in his face shifts almost immediately. It's a good shift, just difficult to explain. But his hands move back to his clothes, even if it's somewhat distracted for the way he won't stop looking at what he can see her doing over there. ] Wasn't done yet.
thank you for reminding me i would never have thought to look closely at his shoulders otherwise
motherofnemesis
2013-06-15 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Because then she could inform him that he totally isn't taking advantage of her at all, but I suppose if he thinks he is anyways he wouldn't ask at all.
She can run with the lighthearted section of that, because leaving it for precisely its face value is something she's going to store away for later. To remember. ] Both at once? That seems hard.
She can run with the lighthearted section of that, because leaving it for precisely its face value is something she's going to store away for later. To remember. ] Both at once? That seems hard.
[ No, no it isn't. It definitely isn't wrong, she's fairly positive of this.
No, seriously, that's not even remotely fooling her. Like at all. She shakes her head and finishes pulling out what she needs, ambles her way back to the bed and sits on the edge of it, blatantly checking him out as he continues taking off his clothes with approval in her eyes. ] A color again? [ Because regardless of what she's doing, he needs to have a way out if it's too much. ]
No, seriously, that's not even remotely fooling her. Like at all. She shakes her head and finishes pulling out what she needs, ambles her way back to the bed and sits on the edge of it, blatantly checking him out as he continues taking off his clothes with approval in her eyes. ] A color again? [ Because regardless of what she's doing, he needs to have a way out if it's too much. ]
[ She's been sleeping a lot more soundly these days, which is funny. She would have thought she'd sleep less, actually, but she's just tired a lot and easily and when she sleeps it's generally for a solid 8 hours at a stretch now. At least she does wake up feeling pretty thoroughly refreshed, at least temporarily. The morning sickness lasted less than a month for her, and that's pretty lucky. So far she hasn't really noticed much of a change beyond wanting to eat more than normal and being tired far more easily and the faint swell that's starting to show in her stomach. And her breasts being alternatively sore and almost too sensitive, which is weird.
It's all weird, but so far she's handling it fine, she thinks. Well enough.
Today she blinks awake slowly and fairly peacefully, sprawled partially across the bed. For a moment she just lies there, accustoming herself to being awake again, and then turns to glance over at Tony. She can feel his heat, so she already knows he's in bed with her now (though she'd gone to bed alone early, exhausted from not much at all which was frustrating), the question is whether he's already awake or not. ]
It's all weird, but so far she's handling it fine, she thinks. Well enough.
Today she blinks awake slowly and fairly peacefully, sprawled partially across the bed. For a moment she just lies there, accustoming herself to being awake again, and then turns to glance over at Tony. She can feel his heat, so she already knows he's in bed with her now (though she'd gone to bed alone early, exhausted from not much at all which was frustrating), the question is whether he's already awake or not. ]
[ Looks like they'll just have to agree to disagree about Max being totally wrong.
Seriously just watching. He's very intent on watching her hands. He's taking breaks to look up at her face every now and then, but they're nothing more than stolen glances - his focus is definitely on her hands. It happens every now and then, anticipation getting the better of him, and he doesn't feel self-conscious about the way she casually and deliberately appraises his body. He's learned to more or less simply stubbornly refuse to be so about his scarring, and in regards to everything else, he simply doesn't feel the need. ] Same one. Still works. What are you gonna do?
Seriously just watching. He's very intent on watching her hands. He's taking breaks to look up at her face every now and then, but they're nothing more than stolen glances - his focus is definitely on her hands. It happens every now and then, anticipation getting the better of him, and he doesn't feel self-conscious about the way she casually and deliberately appraises his body. He's learned to more or less simply stubbornly refuse to be so about his scarring, and in regards to everything else, he simply doesn't feel the need. ] Same one. Still works. What are you gonna do?
[ They always do manage to reacclimate quickly. And right now she's just following his lead, really, however serious or not serious he wants it to be, because making him comfortable again is the majority of her goal here. She laughs a little bit at that, pushes a little harder at the knots in his muscles. ] Only if you bite me back, baby.
[ I'm pretty sure it's something a lot of couples who like each other a stupid amount have to agree to disagree about. Once dumb emotions start getting involved (and Max would like to submit that these are really dumb feelings, seriously, she never asked for these and she tried to avoid them), each person always thinks the other person is more important.
He can watch away, at the moment she's just sitting there on the edge of the bed watching him, cuffs in a pile beside her and gag still draped casually over her shoulder. At least until he acknowledges her inquiry about the safeword, because now she's going to start to set to work, even if her first move is simply to slide a hand very slowly down one leg, position it as she wants it and move one of the cuffs down to start to secure it to the bed. For the moment, she has no intention of not giving him a show. She wants his full and undivided attention, and to get it she's going to have to make sure he understands who's in charge here and why she deserves it. ] Same one it is. It's funny, but I don't remember saying you could ask questions.
He can watch away, at the moment she's just sitting there on the edge of the bed watching him, cuffs in a pile beside her and gag still draped casually over her shoulder. At least until he acknowledges her inquiry about the safeword, because now she's going to start to set to work, even if her first move is simply to slide a hand very slowly down one leg, position it as she wants it and move one of the cuffs down to start to secure it to the bed. For the moment, she has no intention of not giving him a show. She wants his full and undivided attention, and to get it she's going to have to make sure he understands who's in charge here and why she deserves it. ] Same one it is. It's funny, but I don't remember saying you could ask questions.
[ He is already awake, he's just not really done anything about it. He woke up a little while ago and stayed in the quiet calmness of the room for a while, eventually whispered to JARVIS, who gave him the basic morning's rundown at a Sentinel's lower hearing level, and then just sort of decided to... stay there. It's comfortable here, and he likes listening to the different pacing of their heartbeats. He's been able to hear the third one if he concentrates on it for a couple of weeks now, and when it's quiet like this, it's even easier. It's a small luxury he's keeping more or less to himself, because he's not really sure how he would explain why he's doing it to her because he doesn't actually know. But maybe he'll try and let her use him to hear it too. He's not sure yet. There's a lot of things about all this that neither one of them seems that sure about.
But none of this means he's not happy when she does start to stir. He's been lying mostly on his back with his hips twisted to the side, one arm tucked under his head and the other resting on his stomach. It's a nice stretch in the torso - actually that's how he got into this position, stretching - and it's keeping the covers mostly off of a morning issue. He hasn't been up long enough for it to go down, has really only been awake for a short while at all. But he turns to look at her in return. ] Morning.
But none of this means he's not happy when she does start to stir. He's been lying mostly on his back with his hips twisted to the side, one arm tucked under his head and the other resting on his stomach. It's a nice stretch in the torso - actually that's how he got into this position, stretching - and it's keeping the covers mostly off of a morning issue. He hasn't been up long enough for it to go down, has really only been awake for a short while at all. But he turns to look at her in return. ] Morning.
[ Yeah, that makes sense.
He's fairly easy to maneuver how she wants, because this isn't the part of things that's worth being difficult for. That part comes a little bit later, after the choice is more or less already taken away. Somehow that's more fun. ]
So we're doing 'it's not allowed unless I specifically said it was allowed' tonight. [ Which isn't a question! Well, no, it's totally a question, it's just phrased like a statement, since she just more or less said he's not allowed to ask questions, but he'd still like the clarity. He also enjoys pushing things, so even while he's letting her cuff his leg to the bed, he's pushing against the abstract restraints already. ]
He's fairly easy to maneuver how she wants, because this isn't the part of things that's worth being difficult for. That part comes a little bit later, after the choice is more or less already taken away. Somehow that's more fun. ]
So we're doing 'it's not allowed unless I specifically said it was allowed' tonight. [ Which isn't a question! Well, no, it's totally a question, it's just phrased like a statement, since she just more or less said he's not allowed to ask questions, but he'd still like the clarity. He also enjoys pushing things, so even while he's letting her cuff his leg to the bed, he's pushing against the abstract restraints already. ]
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